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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<description>&quot;as soon as someone is born again they are naturally and automatically able to worship and don’t really need any more than a few cursory pointers and any systematic approach to learning how to worship God may be dispensed with.&quot;
---So you are saying here that the Holy Spirit doesn&#039;t know how to direct us after entering our hearts?  Man needs to step in and give &quot;pointers&quot;.  Sure teaching is important, but it sounds more like manufactured worship instead of genuine worship driven by praise, reverence, awe and thanks for a holy God. 


&quot;Is it vain repetition when we read various passages of Scripture or even the entire Bible over and over again? No. God’s word is rich and deep and the Holy Spirit applies the word anew every day.&quot;
----The Great Commission was able making disciples - teaching them was the main theme.  We need to understand and implement the best practices for teaching - every person does not learn the same way.  If we hold to this standard in the public school system, why not all the more in the church?  Find creative ways The goal is not to just create a habit, but to change lives by the power of the gospel.  Let&#039;s not forget that the devil can deliver Scripture - he has it memorized - so do many, many atheists and God-haters.  

&quot;When you reject the historic forms of worship that are based on the Scriptures and hammered out by the church over centuries, not only are you destined to ‘reinvent the wheel’, so to speak, but you risk compromising the essence of Christian worship.&quot;
----We should not elevate church history so that its almost considered to be biblical truth.  It&#039;s important to look back on the church historically, of course.  These are fallible people, who committed many egregious errors as well as good doctrines.  We can only look to the Bible for worship.

&quot;Worship on the Lord&#039;s Day should be the crowning joy of our week. It&#039;s our opportunity to engage our minds toward God. To enjoy His people. To bask in His presence. To corporately drink from His Word. To give of our talents and resources. To encourage and to be encouraged. To offer praise.&quot;(MacArthur)

I have seen many-a Lutheran congregation being lulled into a liturgical sedation, where its &quot;performers&quot; show no joy or praise - it&#039;s merely repetition, an exercise.  

&quot;...be filled with the Spirit, addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart, giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ. (Eph. 5:18b-21)
The Psalms are also very clear on how we are to offer joyful praise for our great God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;as soon as someone is born again they are naturally and automatically able to worship and don’t really need any more than a few cursory pointers and any systematic approach to learning how to worship God may be dispensed with.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;So you are saying here that the Holy Spirit doesn&#8217;t know how to direct us after entering our hearts?  Man needs to step in and give &#8220;pointers&#8221;.  Sure teaching is important, but it sounds more like manufactured worship instead of genuine worship driven by praise, reverence, awe and thanks for a holy God. </p>
<p>&#8220;Is it vain repetition when we read various passages of Scripture or even the entire Bible over and over again? No. God’s word is rich and deep and the Holy Spirit applies the word anew every day.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;-The Great Commission was able making disciples &#8211; teaching them was the main theme.  We need to understand and implement the best practices for teaching &#8211; every person does not learn the same way.  If we hold to this standard in the public school system, why not all the more in the church?  Find creative ways The goal is not to just create a habit, but to change lives by the power of the gospel.  Let&#8217;s not forget that the devil can deliver Scripture &#8211; he has it memorized &#8211; so do many, many atheists and God-haters.  </p>
<p>&#8220;When you reject the historic forms of worship that are based on the Scriptures and hammered out by the church over centuries, not only are you destined to ‘reinvent the wheel’, so to speak, but you risk compromising the essence of Christian worship.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;-We should not elevate church history so that its almost considered to be biblical truth.  It&#8217;s important to look back on the church historically, of course.  These are fallible people, who committed many egregious errors as well as good doctrines.  We can only look to the Bible for worship.</p>
<p>&#8220;Worship on the Lord&#8217;s Day should be the crowning joy of our week. It&#8217;s our opportunity to engage our minds toward God. To enjoy His people. To bask in His presence. To corporately drink from His Word. To give of our talents and resources. To encourage and to be encouraged. To offer praise.&#8221;(MacArthur)</p>
<p>I have seen many-a Lutheran congregation being lulled into a liturgical sedation, where its &#8220;performers&#8221; show no joy or praise &#8211; it&#8217;s merely repetition, an exercise.  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;be filled with the Spirit, addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart, giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ. (Eph. 5:18b-21)<br />
The Psalms are also very clear on how we are to offer joyful praise for our great God.</p>
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